it seems like in contrast to the autopsy finding from the rnc, they're going right back into that direction. >> that's the answer. let's get rush and sean hannity to moderate debates. in all honesty, i kind of want that to happen. i think for many republicans out there that want the party to change, to move forward in a different direction, it has to hit rock bottom first. and maybe having sean hannity and rush limbaugh host a debate, we would actually hit rock bottom and we would be able to move forward. but look, maybe mo would know this. the rnc doesn't actually have the authority to approve or to fund the debates. so they can say that all they want. they do have -- they can encourage candidates, obviously, to boycott the debates, which would be effective. but i keep saying, look, if it is hillary clinton's miniseries, that is really going to put her over the edge in 2016, we really have no business being in the race to begin with. you think they have their annual summer meeting. how much time have they wasted talking about this when we have bigger fish to fry.